Hi all
I have fifteen hours of training material DV25 online. The edited programs need to be proofed on DVD and the client needs timecode burned in.
Should I be creating a new video track and place timecode plugin on that or otherwise? Is there anyway I can render these timelines without blowing my drive space? I don't have a DVD recorder so need to render for software encoding.
Cheers
Should I be creating a new video track and place timecode plugin on that or otherwise?
Is there anyway I can render these timelines without blowing my drive space?
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Adman wrote:Should I be creating a new video track and place timecode plugin on that or otherwise? Yes. New video track for TC plugin Is there anyway I can render these timelines without blowing my drive space?'fraid not...not at least as far as I know. Good luck!
If you have a Mojo (or are using MC Adrenaline) then you can download the Realtime Timecode plugin from Avid Norway...
http://www.support.avid.no/article/view/526011993357/articleId___382276418352/
It will render timecode in realtime.
Something I have done in the past is digitise a TCIP tape (or the super output of a deck playing a tape) and used Picture in Picture to place it on an upper video layer. Problem is, this requires digitising 60+ minutes of footage at a decent resolution. Well, not so. My solution to that is, do this once, then cut the clip up into chunks of 6 minutes long, and lay it up so that all ten timecode windows are visible in one video frame, then put it back on tape.
It's then a matter of making 10 versions of the PiP that crop and move the necessary bit of the picture. Place the digitised multi-timecode in a sequence, 10 times in a row, apply PiP effects, and viola, 60 minutes of timecode burnin with only 6 minutes of digitising and diskspace.
It's pretty simple to just pop that setup sequence on a floppy and store it with the tape, then you can just batch digitise it when needed in different projects.
Dylan Reeve - Editor and StuffAuckland, New Zealand
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Does the program you send to your client need to show its own timecode or does each shot need to show its original timecode?
The rendered timecode plug in takes a few minutes to render (depending on pgm length of course) but works quite well. I have not tried the non-rendered Norwegian variety.
K
"Don't go by my script, they're always wrong." - producer to me while editing
I have forwarded a request to Avid requesting that this "Avid Norway" Real Time Timecode Burn-In effect be implemented in the standard version of XPro...without the need for Mojo.
I also asked them if they'd consider finally updating Illusion FX to RT plugs too. While not all of them may be able to be used in RT (like the blurs), the others should be.
Avid is listening very very closely. They're making a list and checking it daily. The problem is that the list is massive, it's growing exponentially every day, and they've only got so many resources. Bug fixes and what new feature sets they've locked down for the next release come first. Whatever else is implemented based on what they have time for. With that in mind, it may be a very long time before some of our requests are ever implemented.
Remember: the squeaky wheel gets the grease! Let them know what you'd like to see. If it's good enough, it may make the top of the list!
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AK-Jake wrote:I have forwarded a request to Avid requesting that this "Avid Norway" Real Time Timecode Burn-In effect be implemented in the standard version of XPro...without the need for Mojo.
Bob Berman, of the Motion Picture Editors Guild, wrote "Creating Simple Burn-Ins on Your Avid Outputs" and posted it on their website: www.editorsguild.com; the link to the article is: http://www.editorsguild.com/newsletter/SepOct00/tip_avid.html (note: it's tip_avid, don't forget the underscore there, it's covered up by the underline).
It involves creating a source tape consisting of black with white timecode rolling over it, you then digitize it in at a very low resolution to save drive space. The clip is placed on it own video track (you match the timecodes) and you then use a luma key effect, which does not require rendering. I have used his method and it works very well. I've got several 90 minute tapes with various timecode hours that I use. It may not be practical for your 15 hours of material but check it out anyway.
Thought I'd pass it on as it's one of the most helpful Avid tips I've ever come across!
Ursula Maurer
Washington, DC
Kenton-
You're missing my point: the Timecode Burn-in effect in Illusion FX isn't RT. The "Norway" Timecode Burn-in effect is, but it isn't included in XPro natively, nor is it even on the main Avid.com website. Therefore, I have requested that Avid include a true, non-Mojo-required RT timecode burn-in plugin. Make sense? I've been requesting this for over a year now.
And you're right, the "Norway" plug is pretty cool. It's a beta though and always has been. Why wasn't it finalized and implemented? And why is a great gem like that being hidden on Avid's Norway website? That's what I'd like to know.
Here's the plug in question
umaurer wrote: The clip is placed on it own video track (you match the timecodes) and you then use a luma key effect, which does not require rendering.
The clip is placed on it own video track (you match the timecodes) and you then use a luma key effect, which does not require rendering.
To render to DVD the luma key woud still need to be rendered. Anytime you export a video it needs to be "expert" rendered. That's when VHS can be handy.
daapap wrote:yes, it's realtime in 'green dot'-mode without Mojo- but that that doesn't help him: if he needs a quicktime-movie for software encoding he'll have to render.
AK-Jake wrote: Kenton- You're missing my point: the Timecode Burn-in effect in Illusion FX isn't RT. The "Norway" Timecode Burn-in effect is, but it isn't included in XPro natively, nor is it even on the main Avid.com website. Therefore, I have requested that Avid include a true, non-Mojo-required RT timecode burn-in plugin. Make sense? I've been requesting this for over a year now.
I understand now. I thought you were saying that the Norway was not RT unless you had Mojo..it would be pretty cool if it was included, but maybe due the fact that you have to adjust it (it starts off slightly off screen) that they don't want to put it in, or it could be something as simple as they don't like the guy who developed it anymore (But that would be speculating on my part, so I won't go any further)